Thanks really Matthew Todd:
Some comments below.
"Matthew" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On 21 Dec 2003 09:00:11 -0800, elecconnec@aol.com (Todd Allcock)
> wrote:
>
> >norris_watkins@hotmail.com (Norris Watkins) wrote in message
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> >> I got this wonderful phone ( Nokia 3650 ) recently, and is still
> >> learning its features.
> >>
> >> 1. T-Mobile sells 2 types of T - zones, one 4.99 per month and ther
> >> other 9.99. Both are unlimited data at 56Kbps. But the service
> >> representative could not tell me what the difference is between the
> >> plans, except for the word "corporate emails". What did she mean by
> >> corporate emails - support for protocols other than pop3, like MS
> >> exchange/outlook, lotus etc ?
> >
> >Yes. POP3 access is included in the $4.99 plan.
I understand from your mail below that the ports for pop3 will be opened
with the 4.99 plan.
But I got a bit confused with you saying that, to access internet even this
is not required. I thought one needs to have at least the 4.99 plan turned
on to have any data capabilities at all ( GPRS ). ( Otherwise he will have
to somehow dial his own personal ISP using 3650 as a wireless modem. This
will not only consume your ait time, but also will result in much lower data
speed 9600 Kbps or so ).
So if I dont have GPRS at all, why are you saying that "you don't even need
that much to use it with your laptop. You can use the free wap just the
same". Did you mean using my own isp using the air time ?
>
> You don't need either T-Zones package for pop3 access. The T-Zones
> packages only give you t-mobile's wireless content pages, that can be
> had else where for free anyway.
Could you pl clarify this. Did you mean access to the url
http://wap.voicestream.net ?
Are you saying that access to this page is all 4.99 is giving me ?
If I remember correctly, I got a "service no available" message, before I
activated the T-zones plan, before when I tried to access a url
>
> >> 2. When I access an ordinary ( *non* wap ) web site in my 3650, it
> >> takes really a long time, though it is supposed to be 56 Kbps. Is this
> >> expected ? Is this because the phone is busy converting the ordinary
> >> html website to WML.
> >
> >I don't think it's "converting" anything- just trying to display HTML
> >data using it's browser's rendering engine. Browsing on my 3650's
> >screen is much slower than browsing with my PPC tethered to the 3650.
>
> 3650's built-in browser isn't that great and it does take it a while
> to render, which is what you're seeing in the time delay.
Thanks. Now I understand that 3650 has an html browser. It does not support
all the html tags, and it is slow. But third party browsers can be purchased
that are better than the one it came with.
Could you pl tell what PPC is ( Apple's Power PC ? )
How did you connect 3650 with the PC ? infrared ? If yes, what software did
you use ?
>
> >> 8. With this 4.95 plan is it possible to use my laptop through the
> >> infrared port, and access internet inside my laptop using full fledged
> >> browser like IE. ( I m *not* asking about using 3650 as a wireless
> >> modem, in conjunction with my own personal ISP )
>
> Again you don't even need that much to use it with your laptop. You
> can use the free wap just the same.
"Free wap" sounds very tempting. But as I asked above, I did not understand
this fully.
>
> >> 9. T-mobile also sells a plan for 19.95 per month, for accessing web
> >> in laptop using a wireless pcmcia card. Is it possible to use 3650
> >> with the same plan ( with bluetooth or infrared used to connect the
> >> laptop with the phone ) ( This way I will be able to save money as I
> >> wont be buying the pcmcia card )
> >
> >Yes. You can do VPN as well as FTP with that option.
I see. This is indeed very valuable info. So with this plan will allow me to
use my phone just like an ISP, with all the TCP/UDP ports open.
But if internet is my only objective ( port 80 ), I do not need this at
all. ( 4.95 plan gives me equal speed - 56 Kbps ). Did I get this right ?
And for browsing, I can access www ( only www ) at full speed on my PC, with
4.95 plan. I will be seeing the complete page in all its glory on the PC.
Where does wap ( A simplified version of the original web page ) come in
the picture then.
By the way it looks like - after 3 customer service calls - the only
difference between the 4.95 plan and the 9.95 plan is their support for the
email protocols commonly used in corporations - like Lotus notes, MS
exchange etc. Is this true.
Thanks again ( and again ) Matthew and Todd
--nw
>
> the 19.99 just gives you all the ports you'd have with a normal ISP,
> including FTP and upon request you can have VPN which gives you an
> addressable IP address.
>
> >> 10. Is the pcmcia card they sell ( 200 $ or so ) a generic GSM one,
> >> that could be used with similar data services from other companies (
> >> assuming it could be GSM unlocked ). Or is it tied with T-mobile -
> >> useless with any other carrier.
> the PC Cards are basically small data phones and thus aren't really
> any different except they have been made to handle data better. Some
> also are voice capable with a headset but not all.
> Matthew
>
> matthew at the dash stevens dot us