"Bellsouth" <norris_watkins@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<e7nFb.3075$uh1.982@bignews6.bellsouth.net>.. .

> I understand from your mail below that the ports for pop3 will be opened
> with the 4.99 plan.
>
> But I got a bit confused with you saying that, to access internet even this
> is not required. I thought one needs to have at least the 4.99 plan turned
> on to have any data capabilities at all ( GPRS ). ( Otherwise he will have
> to somehow dial his own personal ISP using 3650 as a wireless modem. This
> will not only consume your ait time, but also will result in much lower data
> speed 9600 Kbps or so ).

T-Mo gives GPRS access for free now, so all of their customers can buy
ringtones and java apps from them. I apologize, but I didn't know
POP3 was available without a T-Zones plan (I subscribe to T-Zones
because I find the WAP pages quick and useful for news, weather,
movietimes, etc.)

> So if I dont have GPRS at all, why are you saying that "you don't even need
> that much to use it with your laptop. You can use the free wap just the
> same". Did you mean using my own isp using the air time ?

No, you can use GPRS for free, but you won't have access to T-Mo's
"WAP deck"

> Could you pl clarify this. Did you mean access to the url
> http://wap.voicestream.net ?

Sort of- you'll only be able to download ringtones from there, but you
could surf non-T-Mo WAP sires (like Yahoo, Google, etc.) as well as
browse the web.

> Are you saying that access to this page is all 4.99 is giving me ?
> If I remember correctly, I got a "service no available" message, before I
> activated the T-zones plan, before when I tried to access a url

Probably because your browser was configured to home into T-Zones.


> Thanks. Now I understand that 3650 has an html browser. It does not support
> all the html tags, and it is slow. But third party browsers can be purchased
> that are better than the one it came with.
>
> Could you pl tell what PPC is ( Apple's Power PC ? )
> How did you connect 3650 with the PC ? infrared ? If yes, what software did
> you use ?

PPC is a Pocket PC (in my case, a Dell Axim X5) handheld. I can use
IR or bluetooth to connect.

I've also used an old Toshiba laptop via IR.

As for software, I simply configured Windows DUN (dial-up networking)
to use a "generic IR modem" and dial *99***1# (that "phone number"
connects you via GPRS.)

> "Free wap" sounds very tempting. But as I asked above, I did not understand
> this fully.

"Free WAP" really means free GPRS. You are only limited by the
capabilities of your browser.


> I see. This is indeed very valuable info. So with this plan will allow me to
> use my phone just like an ISP, with all the TCP/UDP ports open.
> But if internet is my only objective ( port 80 ), I do not need this at
> all. ( 4.95 plan gives me equal speed - 56 Kbps ). Did I get this right ?

Or for free. All are equal speed.

> And for browsing, I can access www ( only www ) at full speed on my PC, with
> 4.95 plan. I will be seeing the complete page in all its glory on the PC.

Yes, or for free.

> Where does wap ( A simplified version of the original web page ) come in
> the picture then.

Many of us stick to WAP sites when browsing with the phone itself,
because WAP pages display better and faster. To lookup a phone number
on the PC you might use whitepages.com, but on the phone,
www.555-1212.com/palm loads faster, for example. www.ebay.com on the
PC, mmm.ebay.com on the phone, etc.

> By the way it looks like - after 3 customer service calls - the only
> difference between the 4.95 plan and the 9.95 plan is their support for the
> email protocols commonly used in corporations - like Lotus notes, MS
> exchange etc. Is this true.

Yes.

> Thanks again ( and again ) Matthew and Todd

Enjoy!

Play with the T-Zones WAP before cancelling the $4.95 service- you
might find it useful enough to keep. Many times I can get the info I
want with a few keypresses rather than firing up my handheld, or
worse, the laptop!