In article <dn9jpv0t8sc8hfmie2hv91hklud5h764fi@4ax.com>,
Renaldoberlescr@mail.rome.univ.it says...
> The regional rankings are from 2002.
>

That's not what the JD Powers web site says:

"Explore the voice of the consumer with ratings on selected
local telephone providers."

http://www.jdpower.com/cc/telecom/jd...eless/Find.jsp

Besides we ranked last in 2002 also, so the question remains the same, evenif
they *are* 2002 results.

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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 01:29:07 -0500, About Dakota
<aboutdakota@REMOVEMEhotmail.com> wrote:

>Also, I would like to say that in Montana, Verizon is terrible.
>However, on the Atlantic coast, Verizon dominates (this probably has to
>do with the fact that "Baby Bell" Verizon Communications was formerly
>Bell Atlantic), and acquired Nynex early in the lifespan of what would
>become Verizon Wireless (in association with AirTouch, which was owned
>by Vodafone prior to the merger with Bell Atlantic Nynex Mobile to
>become Verizon Wireless).

You have that slightly mixed up. Verizon is a name that came to be
associated with both a landline business and a wireless business. The
combination of Bell Atlantic and NYNEX wasn't about wireless, it was a
merger of the two local phone companies serving the Eastern seaboard
from Maine to Va. VZW came to be from the combination of AirTouch,
PrimeCo, BellAtlantic Mobile (which was never connected to NYNEX) and
maybe one or two others I'm forgetting.

>Again, why don't you drive through Kentucky and ask people who have
>moved there while in contract with Verizon Wireless...or residents of
>Nevada, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Washington, (north half of) Wisconsin,
>or (upper) Michigan). These areas are not even covered on the
>"America's Choice" plans.

All true. But that's because VZW doesn't have native coverage in those
areas. If you have a true nationwide plan, you're on a roaming partner
in many of the areas VZW doesn't serve directly.
>
>I do not know much about AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, or Nextel, other than
>each has a hole huge hole in north central/midwest plains region.
>
They have larger holes because they have fewer, or in the case of
Nextel none, roaming partners.

On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 23:08:48 -0000, wmbray@hotmail.com (William Bray)
wrote:

>Nope, not just randomized either. I've lived in this country for almost
>50 years, never got randomly selected by either JD Powers or Neilson.
>The so called random selections are a little more controlled than you
>may want to think.
>Specific target groups in specific areas are poled. It's kind of like
>lot of random medical poles you read about but never have happen to you.
> It would cost too much money to do an actual random pole.
>I'll spin this into another post.

Nielsen, JD Powers, and others don't do random samples, they do
statistically valid samples. IOW, they pick a pool of people who are
designed to represent the country as a whole, car buyers as a whole,
etc. They screen their pools to ensure that the numbers of various
genders and groups are representative of the entire populace they're
measuring, be it TV watchers, consumers, etc.


>
>JT <jbrthornnospam@nospam.xler936565.com> wrote in article
><uKFgb.26039$9a7.21984@bignews6.bellsouth.net>:
>> I think it is similar to Neilson TV ratings. They just randomly contact
>> people either by phone or mail and may pay them for their response as an
>> incentive to properly and accurately complete the survey. Have you ever
>> received one of those types of surveys where they pay you a few dollars
>> to complete it? I have from Neilson and other surveying organizations.

On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 04:32:38 -0000, wmbray@hotmail.com (William Bray)
wrote:

>Try this on for size. Based on a survey of 1,200 cell phone users, a
>group called Zelos gave an approving nod to the cell phone industry to
>step into the phone number list selling business. Based on a very small
>number of people's tolerance toward this stupid idea all of us are about
>to have our cell phone numbers listed and all the cell phone companies
>will make a mint off our backs. All of them. ALL.
>Was that really a random representation of 140 million users?

As long as the 1,200 has the same proportions in terms of customer
demographics as the 140 million pool, then its valid. I don't know if
there's a minimum percentage that's generally considered more valid
than another, however.

>JD Powers often faces law suits from the loosing party. Sometimes they
>loose. Does this mean they are not trustworthy? No, it means that
>according to some other standard of measurement someone disagrees with
>their survey. These are the facts and reality of business. JD Powers
>happens to be very good at what they do, and more often than not folks
>agree with them. I agree with the placement they made of the cell phone
>company I use- especially if public image is part of the equation.

You mean losing party, right?