LoopyLemon <whosasillyspammer@hotmail.com> writes
>But now it gets tricky I'm thinking of getting a T610 and not been up to
>date with new phones what services will I find useful with it. Whats the
>charging structure of WAP, GPRS and what services do they offer - i.e. is
>this the internet on your phone or just services provided by the operator,
>can I see sites like ebay and such?

I'll re-use a bizarre analogy I posted recently.

Think of it like a nice cup of tea. WAP is the 'tea' and GPRS is the
'cup' - the cup delivers tea to you. You can also drink tea out of a
mug instead of a cup. (HS)CSD (i.e. dialling up) is your 'mug'. You can
use your cup or mug to deliver you other refreshing drinks as well, you
might want POP3 mail access (or 'coffee'). The pot is the Internet, but
you'll have to decide what the bourbon cream is.

HTH ;-)

>Is GPRS the same as wap just a quicker access mechanism.

No.

>And what about data calls you see tariff prices for - what are these
>for?

For making other data calls. TBH (and this isn't being rude), if you
don't know what it's for then you don't need it.

>Are there other providers you can call for WAP and get cheaper?

There are other people who provide WAP dialup access. Some ISPs do, but
they may not be cheaper - although (depending on price plan) may be a
useful way of using up inclusive minutes that might otherwise get
wasted.

>Also what about Orange Open Access - is this a full WAP/GPRS service - it
>seems very cheap at only £4 for 200mins/10 MB a month

It's full WAP, either by dialup (CSD) where you get 200 mins, or by GPRS
where you get 10Mb.

>and why do orange other extra GPRS packs in that case.

Because you can use GPRS for more than just WAP.

>If this is the case I might be tempted to joining orange can this pack
>be added to the OVP plans.

Certainly to the OVP Virgin plan - so I assume that it can be added to
others.



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Dave

On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 15:12:40 +0100, someone purporting to be Dave
<news.reply.0703@dv-8.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Think of it like a nice cup of tea. WAP is the 'tea' and GPRS is the
> 'cup' - the cup delivers tea to you. You can also drink tea out of a
> mug instead of a cup. (HS)CSD (i.e. dialling up) is your 'mug'. You can
> use your cup or mug to deliver you other refreshing drinks as well, you
> might want POP3 mail access (or 'coffee'). The pot is the Internet, but
> you'll have to decide what the bourbon cream is.

You are John Murphy and I claim my five pounds (Argos vouchers acceptable).

john


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John Temperley in London, England
john at usenetz.clara.co.uk

"John Temperley" <news@usenetz.clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uv6bgvk12bjnif65o5qjocr0df170hdfc9@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 15:12:40 +0100, someone purporting to be Dave
> <news.reply.0703@dv-8.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Think of it like a nice cup of tea. WAP is the 'tea' and GPRS is the
> > 'cup' - the cup delivers tea to you. You can also drink tea out of a
> > mug instead of a cup. (HS)CSD (i.e. dialling up) is your 'mug'. You can
> > use your cup or mug to deliver you other refreshing drinks as well, you
> > might want POP3 mail access (or 'coffee'). The pot is the Internet, but
> > you'll have to decide what the bourbon cream is.

so if the pot is the internet do service providers have the controlling hand
as to what is poured into each Cup/Mug or what WAP sites are available (and
POP3 mail address ???? ).

LoopyLemon wrote:
> so if the pot is the internet do service providers have the controlling hand
> as to what is poured into each Cup/Mug or what WAP sites are available (and
> POP3 mail address ???? ).

How about the fridge is the Internet, full of things like cakes (WAP
sites), gateaux (websites), and chocolate eclairs (e-mail), you can
choose whether you want them on a plate (GPRS) or a dish (CSD), and
there's a couple of bouncers by the fridge door who are in charge of
handing over what you want.

There's one bouncer who's foreign and only understands the word 'cake'
and another who will hand over anything you ask for (*). You pay them
both the same rate.

Or you can pay buy a membership card valid for a month (WAP Open Access
or GPRS unlimited access) and the membership card for the foreign
bouncer is cheaper.

Er, that didn't help did it?

(* = apart from virtual private networks on Orange)

John Temperley <news@usenetz.clara.co.uk> writes
>You are John Murphy and I claim my five pounds (Argos vouchers acceptable).

[scratches head wondering whether or not to be offended]

--
Dave

"Dan" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:be4a5j$157m6$1@ID-183276.news.dfncis.de...
> There's one bouncer who's foreign and only understands the word 'cake'
> and another who will hand over anything you ask for (*). You pay them
> both the same rate.

> (* = apart from virtual private networks on Orange)

And various other services, and that of course is assuming the bouncer turns
up for work. Orange's bouncers are more than a bit unreliable, and as a
result, you often find when you get to the door, it's locked and the
bouncers nowhere to be seen.