In uk.telecom.broadband, Nigel M wrote:

>I've just bought a job lot of DECT/GAP base stations and PSUs on eBay

As it happens, the base stations have answering machines (they are from
the BT / Siemens Diverse 3016).

Is there such a concept as an "incoming call" on VOIP, and would an
answering machine pick up?

Anyway, I've got an auction on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=5174236865


--
Nigel M
"Occam's razor is not always sharp"

Nigel M:
>Is there such a concept as an "incoming call" on VOIP, and would an
>answering machine pick up?

Yes. Yes, BUT you would need an ATA and a router, or VoIP socket on a
router !

>Anyway, I've got an auction on eBay:

Geez, perhaps you should learn LOT more about VoIP BEFORE
advertising a DECT cordless base ONLY using 'VoIP Cordless base station'
written over the picture !

It's got no more to do with VoIP then any other analog phone !!!

Regards,
Martin

I'm about to sell some similar phones (2016) as we upgraded to Philips xenia
ones.
But about VoIP, you may want to check out www.vonage.co.uk
They are huge in the US and Canada and just moved here this year too.
They provide equipment to connect a regular phone to an ethernet port (eg on
router).
I wanted to setup my wife in FL and also my parents in Scotland, but as our
broadband line is ADSL, we are apparently not allowed to ditch our BT phone
line?
It all has something to do with a hot topic in telecoms right now called
"Local Loop Unbundling".
Perhaps someone reading this could provide more of an insight as I've only
just become aware that BT can force me to have their phone service if I want
broadband (even with another provider).
I should also point out that if there is a dispute with your phone service,
BT has the right to deny access to any broadband service provided by anyone
too.
"Nigel M" <reply@thegroup.com> wrote in message
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> In uk.telecom.broadband, Nigel M wrote:
>
> >I've just bought a job lot of DECT/GAP base stations and PSUs on eBay
>
> As it happens, the base stations have answering machines (they are from
> the BT / Siemens Diverse 3016).
>
> Is there such a concept as an "incoming call" on VOIP, and would an
> answering machine pick up?
>
> Anyway, I've got an auction on eBay:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=5174236865
>
>
> --
> Nigel M
> "Occam's razor is not always sharp"

"Martin²" <never@give.one> kirjoitti viestissä
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> Geez, perhaps you should learn LOT more about VoIP BEFORE
> advertising a DECT cordless base ONLY using 'VoIP Cordless base station'
> written over the picture !

> It's got no more to do with VoIP then any other analog phone !!!

Combining DECT and VoIP is a great is a great idea. What would make this a
"killer application" is if we could us DECTs built in roaming capabilities.
(The DECT radio interface is in fact quite similar to GSM with roaming
enabled.)

The problem is the totally useless piece of POTS connection in the
installation:
VoIP > router > POTS > base-station > DECT > handset

The idea is to leave the POTS out all together and connect the base station
directly to the Internet with an Ethernet-connection. Some more on this idea
on my web pages:
http://www.helsinkiopen.net/shared_i....html#wireless


(Group news:alt.internet.wireless added.)

--
Petri Krohn
Helsinki Neighborhood Networking Association
HelsinkiOpen -- http://www.helsinkiopen.net

I wanted to setup my wife in FL and also my parents in Scotland, but as our
> broadband line is ADSL, we are apparently not allowed to ditch our BT
> phone
> line?
> It all has something to do with a hot topic in telecoms right now called
> "Local Loop Unbundling".
> Perhaps someone reading this could provide more of an insight as I've only
> just become aware that BT can force me to have their phone service if I
> want
> broadband (even with another provider).


BT will not force you to use their phone service, just rent the line and use
another provider for your calls. If you want broadband then you need a line
from the exchange to your property and that`s not provided free.
LLU enables another provider to have direct access to the line from the
exchange to your house for which you will be billed by the alternative
provider anyway.

Fred S

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 03:58:02 -0000, "Anon" <Blackfly@pobox.co.uk>
wrote:

>I wanted to setup my wife in FL and also my parents in Scotland, but as our
>broadband line is ADSL, we are apparently not allowed to ditch our BT phone
>line?

Yes, because ADSL is provided over the BT line.

>Perhaps someone reading this could provide more of an insight as I've only
>just become aware that BT can force me to have their phone service if I want
>broadband (even with another provider).

They can't force you to keep their line, but if you want ADSL you need
it since ADSL is almost invariably provided over their copper. There's
a VERY small number of areas in the UK where other ADSL line
providers. Alternatively you may be in a cable area.

>I should also point out that if there is a dispute with your phone service,
>BT has the right to deny access to any broadband service provided by anyone
>too.

They're providing two services on one contract - a line and phone
calls. If you don't pay the bill they can suspend both.

In uk.telecom.broadband, Martin² wrote:

>Geez, perhaps you should learn LOT more about VoIP BEFORE
>advertising a DECT cordless base ONLY using 'VoIP Cordless base station'
>written over the picture !

The item is titled:

"CORDLESS PHONE BASE STATION FOR BROADBAND VOIP ROUTER"

I think this accurately describes the item, but just in case, it says:

"Use your cordless phone with your VOIP broadband router using this
DECT/GAP cordless phone base station."

and:

"Please note: For the avoidance of doubt: you are bidding on a DECT/GAP
cordless phone base station, complete with UK power supply and e-manual
only. Cordless phone and broadband router are not included."


--
Nigel M
"Occam's razor is not always sharp"

"The Simpsons" <fred.simpson@removeme.btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:4232ba9b$0$568$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
>
> I wanted to setup my wife in FL and also my parents in Scotland, but as
our
> > broadband line is ADSL, we are apparently not allowed to ditch our BT
> > phone
> > line?
> > It all has something to do with a hot topic in telecoms right now called
> > "Local Loop Unbundling".
> > Perhaps someone reading this could provide more of an insight as I've
only
> > just become aware that BT can force me to have their phone service if I
> > want
> > broadband (even with another provider).
>
>
> BT will not force you to use their phone service, just rent the line and
use
> another provider for your calls. If you want broadband then you need a
line
> from the exchange to your property and that`s not provided free.
> LLU enables another provider to have direct access to the line from the
> exchange to your house for which you will be billed by the alternative
> provider anyway.
>
> Fred S

Whilst BT may not force you to use their phone service they do force you to
pay for one. There is no longer an option to pay for line rental only - all
lines come with a Together Option ( 1, 2 or 3) which you pay for.
Personally I feel it is about time someone put a stop to this as there are
many better deals for calls than BT. This sort of practice should be
outlawed.
--
§meagol

Petri:
>What would make this a
>"killer application" is if we could us DECTs built in roaming capabilities.
>(The DECT radio interface is in fact quite similar to GSM with roaming
>enabled.)

That's exactly what British Telecom is working on, DECT / GSM 'Bluephone'
which will seamlessly switch to your landline as you walk though your house
door.

But I would rather have WiFi VoIP phone, that would use GSM if nothing else
is available.
Samsung has a prototype.
Regards,
Martin

In uk.telecom.broadband, Nigel M wrote:

>Anyway, I've got an auction on eBay:
>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=5174236865


If you buy a router with a VoIP port, does it come with a lead to plug
into a phone? Either way, what connectors are involved? RJ11?


--
Nigel M
"Occam's razor is not always sharp"