A year or so ago NTL had different newsservers and gave them
different names. For example:
news.ntlworld.com
text.news.ntlworld.com
news.cable.ntlworld.com
newscache.cable.ntlworld.com
news.cable.ntl.com
news.cache.cable.ntlworld.com
news.cache.ntlworld.com
etc

---------------

Now I can only find these three different IP addresses for Usenet
servers:

news.cable.ntl.com
= [ 194.168.222.120 ] = [ newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net ]
news.virgin.net
= [ 194.168.222.120 ] = [ newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net ]
news.tesco.net
= [ 194.168.222.120 ] = [ newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net ]


news.ntlworld.com
= [ 62.253.162.202 ] = [ newsfe2-win.server.ntli.net ]


text.news.ntlworld.com
= [ 194.168.222.122 ] = [ newsfe3-gui.server.ntli.net ]
news.cable.ntlworld.com
= [ 194.168.222.122 ] = [ newsfe3-gui.server.ntli.net ]

---------------

However by extrapolation of the number sequence in the server
name [ newsfe3-gui.server.ntli.net ] I get these working servers:

[ newsfe4-gui.server.ntli.net ] = [ 194.168.222.123 ]
[ newsfe5-gui.server.ntli.net ] = [ 194.168.222.124 ]
[ newsfe6-gui.server.ntli.net ] = [ 194.168.222.125 ]
[ newsfe7-gui.server.ntli.net ] = [ 194.168.222.126 ]

---------------

Are all these 7 actually separate servers?

Is anyone able to tell how fast the different servers are?

Maybe someone has an automated PING utility to see which ones are
fatsest at different times of the day to see which ones cope best
with peak loads.

"Sandi" <sorry@no.email.please> wrote in message
news:963169A441B6274C1H4@194.168.222.124...
> A year or so ago NTL had different newsservers and gave them
> different names. For example:
> news.ntlworld.com
> text.news.ntlworld.com
> news.cable.ntlworld.com
> newscache.cable.ntlworld.com
> news.cable.ntl.com
> news.cache.cable.ntlworld.com
> news.cache.ntlworld.com
> etc
>

Just be thankfull that you don't have to use Pipex's pitiful servers.

"Treefrog" <news@balancebikes.co.uk> wrote in message
news:d33dk5$tua$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> "Sandi" <sorry@no.email.please> wrote in message
> news:963169A441B6274C1H4@194.168.222.124...
> > A year or so ago NTL had different newsservers and gave them
> > different names. For example:
> > news.ntlworld.com
> > text.news.ntlworld.com
> > news.cable.ntlworld.com
> > newscache.cable.ntlworld.com
> > news.cable.ntl.com
> > news.cache.cable.ntlworld.com
> > news.cache.ntlworld.com
> > etc
> >
>
> Just be thankfull that you don't have to use Pipex's pitiful servers.

Nowt wrong with Pipex's servers. Can't remember the address for the
giganews server but it's pretty damn good in my opinion.

>
>

On Thu 07 Apr 2005 10:40:29, Ponder wrote:
<news:19162apkaq9d2$.dlg@colin-jones.co.uk>

>> A year or so ago NTL had different newsservers and gave them
>> different names. For example:
>> news.ntlworld.com
>> text.news.ntlworld.com
>> news.cable.ntlworld.com
>> newscache.cable.ntlworld.com
>> news.cable.ntl.com
>> news.cache.cable.ntlworld.com
>> news.cache.ntlworld.com
>> etc
>> ---------------
>
> They're all now aliases of news.ntli.net which has the
> following IPs
> attached to it:
>
> odyssey:~# host news.ntli.net
> news.ntli.net has address 62.253.162.203
> news.ntli.net has address 62.253.162.205
> news.ntli.net has address 62.253.162.206
> news.ntli.net has address 194.168.222.120
> news.ntli.net has address 194.168.222.121
> news.ntli.net has address 194.168.222.122
> news.ntli.net has address 194.168.222.124
> news.ntli.net has address 194.168.222.125
> news.ntli.net has address 62.253.162.201
> news.ntli.net has address 62.253.162.202
>
>> ---------------
>> Are all these 7 actually separate servers?
>> Is anyone able to tell how fast the different servers are?
>
> As far as I know they're all identical spec.
>
>> Maybe someone has an automated PING utility to see which ones
>> are fatsest at different times of the day to see which ones
>> cope best with peak loads.
>
> Someone does, ntl, it's how they choose which IP you get.
> Well, some sort
> of load balancing anyway. Not that it always works of course
>


Does this mean that the correct name for NTL's newsserver is now
"news.ntli.net".

And that "news.ntli.net" is the best name to use as they will load
balance the rear-end servers to provide "news.ntli.net" with the most
even service?

"Dave" <Dav123456@willnotwork.com> wrote in message
news:d33iok$iq9$1@newsfeed.th.ifl.net...
>
> "Treefrog" <news@balancebikes.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:d33dk5$tua$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > "Sandi" <sorry@no.email.please> wrote in message
> > news:963169A441B6274C1H4@194.168.222.124...
> > > A year or so ago NTL had different newsservers and gave them
> > > different names. For example:
> > > news.ntlworld.com
> > > text.news.ntlworld.com
> > > news.cable.ntlworld.com
> > > newscache.cable.ntlworld.com
> > > news.cable.ntl.com
> > > news.cache.cable.ntlworld.com
> > > news.cache.ntlworld.com
> > > etc
> > >
> >
> > Just be thankfull that you don't have to use Pipex's pitiful servers.
>
> Nowt wrong with Pipex's servers. Can't remember the address for the
> giganews server but it's pretty damn good in my opinion.

I had endless trouble with it. I sent posts and they never got posted, the
groups were often out of date and it was very slow. Can't fault them for
anything else though, they were a very good ISP, just their news server (at
least from my POP) was toss.

On Thu 07 Apr 2005 21:59:53, Ponder wrote:
>
> Hiya Sandi.
> Please don't add crossposts that have been removed, especially
> when the groups aren't carried on my local news feed

Ponder, apologies for that. I had not intended to offend. I had
originally considered the "home networking" group but thought I then
removed it. Guess I left it in by mistake.

OTOH "uk.telecom.broadband" seems quite relevant.

ISTR that if a newserver does not carry a group then that newsserver
should still be able to pass the posting request to its peer servers
which will try and make sure the message is correctly sent. In fact
someone once told me that this requirement/suggestion was stated in
one of the RFCs.

I know some servers don't adhere to this (eg Astra). But NTL's own
newsservers carry both ntl.discussion.broadband.cm and
uk.telecom.broadband.



> Sandi wrote:
>>
>> Does this mean that the correct name for NTL's newsserver is
>> now "news.ntli.net".
>
> Seems that way.


>> And that "news.ntli.net" is the best name to use as they will
>> load balance the rear-end servers to provide "news.ntli.net"
>> with the most even service?
>
> Doesn't make a difference which one you use, they're all the
> same in reality

I am not entirely sure those names for NTL's newsservers are the
actually same because they seem to resolve to different IP addresses.
Maybe the lookup software you used was cleverer than the one I used
with the result that I got just one IP address for each server (but
there may have been more IP addresses).

QUESTION: What lookup tool are you using?

maybe someone else who knows NTLs newsservers can also comment?

Sandi

--

PS: Have included your IP list and mine below as a signature for ease
of reference to the IP info.

----------- ORIGINAL POST ---------------

I can only find these three different IP addresses for NTL
Usenet servers:

news.cable.ntl.com
= [ 194.168.222.120 ] = [ newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net ]
news.virgin.net
= [ 194.168.222.120 ] = [ newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net ]
news.tesco.net
= [ 194.168.222.120 ] = [ newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net ]


news.ntlworld.com
= [ 62.253.162.202 ] = [ newsfe2-win.server.ntli.net ]


text.news.ntlworld.com
= [ 194.168.222.122 ] = [ newsfe3-gui.server.ntli.net ]
news.cable.ntlworld.com
= [ 194.168.222.122 ] = [ newsfe3-gui.server.ntli.net ]

---------------

However by extrapolation of the number sequence in the server
name [ newsfe3-gui.server.ntli.net ] I get these working servers:

[ newsfe4-gui.server.ntli.net ] = [ 194.168.222.123 ]
[ newsfe5-gui.server.ntli.net ] = [ 194.168.222.124 ]
[ newsfe6-gui.server.ntli.net ] = [ 194.168.222.125 ]
[ newsfe7-gui.server.ntli.net ] = [ 194.168.222.126 ]

---------------

Are all these 7 actually separate servers?

Is anyone able to tell how fast the different servers are?

Maybe someone has an automated PING utility to see which ones are
fatsest at different times of the day to see which ones cope best
with peak loads.

------------------ END OF ORIGINAL POST ---------------
------------------ START OF REPLY POST ----------------

> Ponder wrote:
>
> They're all now aliases of news.ntli.net which has the
> following IPs attached to it:
>
> odyssey:~# host news.ntli.net
>
> news.ntli.net has address 62.253.162.203
> news.ntli.net has address 62.253.162.205
> news.ntli.net has address 62.253.162.206
> news.ntli.net has address 194.168.222.120
> news.ntli.net has address 194.168.222.121
> news.ntli.net has address 194.168.222.122
> news.ntli.net has address 194.168.222.124
> news.ntli.net has address 194.168.222.125
> news.ntli.net has address 62.253.162.201
> news.ntli.net has address 62.253.162.202

----------------- END OF REPLY POST ----------------