Do these even exist as standalone boxes?
Not generic "connect 2 of these to each end of a line", but one that
would work with a standard modem.

"Ian Stirling" <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Do these even exist as standalone boxes?
> Not generic "connect 2 of these to each end of a line", but one that
> would work with a standard modem.

What do you mean? Why would a modem be in the exchange?

On Tue, 3 May 2005 17:45:50 +0100, "Chris" <chris@nospam> wrote:

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>"Ian Stirling" <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> Do these even exist as standalone boxes?

>What do you mean? Why would a modem be in the exchange?

I assume he means the 'DSLAM' end ... if one (eg the council) were wanting
to link their existing buildings together in a 'star' network with their
own unit in the centre of the star, and a large (or small) number of
ADSL modem/routers spread around in each of the other buildings.

That's allow them to save if they already had a network of their own lines.
I suspect (to move back to Ian's query) that the 'mini DSLAM' would be the
thing ... <http://www.adslguide.org/newsarchive.asp?item=1059> ? Peter

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On 03 May 2005 15:02GMT, Ian Stirling <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Do these even exist as standalone boxes?

see http://www.adslguide.org/newsarchive.asp?item=1035

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On Tue, 03 May 2005 17:57:08 +0100, Peter M <us-mail@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 3 May 2005 17:45:50 +0100, "Chris" <chris@nospam> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ian Stirling" <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> Do these even exist as standalone boxes?
>
>>What do you mean? Why would a modem be in the exchange?
>
>I assume he means the 'DSLAM' end ... if one (eg the council) were wanting
>to link their existing buildings together in a 'star' network with their
>own unit in the centre of the star, and a large (or small) number of
>ADSL modem/routers spread around in each of the other buildings.
>
>That's allow them to save if they already had a network of their own lines.
>I suspect (to move back to Ian's query) that the 'mini DSLAM' would be the
>thing ... <http://www.adslguide.org/newsarchive.asp?item=1059> ? Peter

They could install their own small DSLAM at the head office premises,
then use BT EPS9 lines to connect the remote ends, with a standard
ADSL modem installed at each one - but the remote ends must be
connected to the same telephone exchange as the head office.

Jake

On 03 May 2005 15:02:49 GMT, Ian Stirling <root@mauve.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>Do these even exist as standalone boxes?
>Not generic "connect 2 of these to each end of a line", but one that
>would work with a standard modem.

http://www.paradyne.com/products/SUD2000-12/
http://www.paradyne.com/products/micro/

On 03 May 2005 15:02:49 GMT, Ian Stirling <root@mauve.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>Not generic "connect 2 of these to each end of a line", but one that
>would work with a standard modem.

you aren't allowed to do "reverse ADSL" ie put a DSLAM type modem on
your end of an exchange line as this would drown out your neighbours
weak downstream signal.


Phil
Tiscali - dialup speeds at Broadband prices :-)

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Phil Thompson <phil.thompson@spamcop.net> wrote:
> On 03 May 2005 15:02:49 GMT, Ian Stirling <root@mauve.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>Not generic "connect 2 of these to each end of a line", but one that
>>would work with a standard modem.
>
> you aren't allowed to do "reverse ADSL" ie put a DSLAM type modem on
> your end of an exchange line as this would drown out your neighbours
> weak downstream signal.

Thanks everyone for the comments.
Well, yes, I wasn't actually meaning to connect to BTs network, that'd
be silly, as it wouldn't actually (usually) work.

On 04 May 2005 10:46:26 GMT, Ian Stirling <root@mauve.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>Well, yes, I wasn't actually meaning to connect to BTs network, that'd
>be silly, as it wouldn't actually (usually) work.

look for a DSLAM on Ebay ? I think it would be cheaper to use the "one
of these on each end of the line" types to be honest.

Phil
Tiscali - dialup speeds at Broadband prices :-)

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In message <42779299$0$83049$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>, Ian
Stirling <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> writes
>Do these even exist as standalone boxes?
>Not generic "connect 2 of these to each end of a line", but one that
>would work with a standard modem.

ZyXEL sell SDSL and VDSL kit which has a 'one line' device at the
'exchange' end..


For SDSL, which is certainly OK to use over a 'dark copper' circuit such
as what used to be called an EPS9 and is now called Baseband Standard,
investigate a pair of Prestige 791.

For VDSL, which is almost certainly outside the ANFP for the public
network, look at Prestige 841 and a Prestige 841C. You need one of each.
You probably can't use a P841 except with a P841C at the other end.



David
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