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Old 06-03-2007, 07:27 PM
John Perry
 
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Default How to use Vigor 2600vg with fixed IP address?

At the moment I am using a spare PC and software as an Internet router
but it is getting old and a bit unreliable, and I am trying to replace
it with a Vigor2600VG.

My network all has fixed IP address in the 192.168.0.xxx range. While I
have managed to configure the Vigor to use a fixed IP address, I cannot
control it via the web interface unless the DHCP server is running (and
I don't want or need that), and I can't access the Internet through it
either on any machine unless the PC is using the DHCP server of the
Vigor to pick up an IP address.

Has anyone seen a write up or know how to configure this beast in a
static IP environment?

Thanks
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:28 PM
Ian
 
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Default Re: How to use Vigor 2600vg with fixed IP address?


"John Perry" <JohnPerry@redoak.co.ukNOSPAM> wrote in message
news:b7s9919chm9fk7p2m0r2e0va8d4snlbklv@4ax.com...
> At the moment I am using a spare PC and software as an Internet router
> but it is getting old and a bit unreliable, and I am trying to replace
> it with a Vigor2600VG.
>
> My network all has fixed IP address in the 192.168.0.xxx range. While I
> have managed to configure the Vigor to use a fixed IP address, I cannot
> control it via the web interface unless the DHCP server is running (and
> I don't want or need that), and I can't access the Internet through it
> either on any machine unless the PC is using the DHCP server of the
> Vigor to pick up an IP address.
>
> Has anyone seen a write up or know how to configure this beast in a
> static IP environment?


It sounds as if when you are setting the static addreses of the PCs you are
not setting the default gateway or/and DNS server address.
The router address would be both of these normally as it will forward DNS
requests and It will obviously be the gateway.
First thing to do would be turn off the DHCP server on the router then setup
the PC and do an ipconfig and check all looks correct then check you can
ping the gateway then a site address www.google.com for example. And see
what you get.
Ian


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Old 06-03-2007, 07:28 PM
Wireless Reader
 
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Default Re: How to use Vigor 2600vg with fixed IP address?

John Perry wrote:
> At the moment I am using a spare PC and software as an Internet router
> but it is getting old and a bit unreliable, and I am trying to replace
> it with a Vigor2600VG.
>
> My network all has fixed IP address in the 192.168.0.xxx range. While I
> have managed to configure the Vigor to use a fixed IP address, I cannot
> control it via the web interface unless the DHCP server is running (and
> I don't want or need that), and I can't access the Internet through it
> either on any machine unless the PC is using the DHCP server of the
> Vigor to pick up an IP address.
>
> Has anyone seen a write up or know how to configure this beast in a
> static IP environment?


By default the Vigor has an IP address of 192.168.1.1 and the built in
DHCP server offers addresses from 192.168.1.10.

Have you changed the Vigor IP address to match your LAN (192.168.0.x)?
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:28 PM
Dj Toonz
 
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"Wireless Reader" <justrolls@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> John Perry wrote:
> > At the moment I am using a spare PC and software as an Internet router
> > but it is getting old and a bit unreliable, and I am trying to replace
> > it with a Vigor2600VG.
> >
> > My network all has fixed IP address in the 192.168.0.xxx range. While I
> > have managed to configure the Vigor to use a fixed IP address, I cannot
> > control it via the web interface unless the DHCP server is running (and
> > I don't want or need that), and I can't access the Internet through it
> > either on any machine unless the PC is using the DHCP server of the
> > Vigor to pick up an IP address.
> >
> > Has anyone seen a write up or know how to configure this beast in a
> > static IP environment?

>
> By default the Vigor has an IP address of 192.168.1.1 and the built in
> DHCP server offers addresses from 192.168.1.10.
>
> Have you changed the Vigor IP address to match your LAN (192.168.0.x)?


i've got a differnt router to you but the same things might be the same as
how i set my wireless router up in a static ip environment up is doing it
this way

i went into the routers config settings and disabled the DHCP server then
set up the lan card's to get a static ip address 192.168.x.2 upto
192.168.x.6 as i've got 3 pc's and a Ps2 using the router , added
255.255.255.0 to the subnet and addedd the router's ip address to the
default gateway for example 192.168.x.1 or whatever it says is the ip
address , then added the routers ip address to the dafault DNS address so
for example 192.168.x.1 (dont use the WAN ip address for the routers ip
address the WAN is the ip you get from your ISP) hope that helps, that's how
i set mine up


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Old 06-03-2007, 07:28 PM
usenet@isbd.co.uk
 
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Default Re: How to use Vigor 2600vg with fixed IP address?

John Perry <JohnPerry@redoak.co.uknospam> wrote:
> At the moment I am using a spare PC and software as an Internet router
> but it is getting old and a bit unreliable, and I am trying to replace
> it with a Vigor2600VG.
>
> My network all has fixed IP address in the 192.168.0.xxx range. While I
> have managed to configure the Vigor to use a fixed IP address, I cannot
> control it via the web interface unless the DHCP server is running (and
> I don't want or need that), and I can't access the Internet through it
> either on any machine unless the PC is using the DHCP server of the
> Vigor to pick up an IP address.
>
> Has anyone seen a write up or know how to configure this beast in a
> static IP environment?
>

Obvious question, is the router on the same subnet? Your PCs are on
the 192.168.0.xxx subnet, maybe the router is in 192.168.1.xxx, it's
quite a common default. If my surmise is right it would explain your
symptoms.

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Old 06-03-2007, 07:29 PM
John Perry
 
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"Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"John Perry" <JohnPerry@redoak.co.ukNOSPAM> wrote in message
>news:b7s9919chm9fk7p2m0r2e0va8d4snlbklv@4ax.com.. .
>> At the moment I am using a spare PC and software as an Internet router
>> but it is getting old and a bit unreliable, and I am trying to replace
>> it with a Vigor2600VG.
>>
>> My network all has fixed IP address in the 192.168.0.xxx range. While I
>> have managed to configure the Vigor to use a fixed IP address, I cannot
>> control it via the web interface unless the DHCP server is running (and
>> I don't want or need that), and I can't access the Internet through it
>> either on any machine unless the PC is using the DHCP server of the
>> Vigor to pick up an IP address.
>>
>> Has anyone seen a write up or know how to configure this beast in a
>> static IP environment?

>
>It sounds as if when you are setting the static addreses of the PCs you are
>not setting the default gateway or/and DNS server address.
>The router address would be both of these normally as it will forward DNS
>requests and It will obviously be the gateway.
>First thing to do would be turn off the DHCP server on the router then setup
>the PC and do an ipconfig and check all looks correct then check you can
>ping the gateway then a site address www.google.com for example. And see
>what you get.
>Ian
>

I think you are on the right lines but my problem is how to set the
router IP address and dns server. The PC I used as the router had IP
address 192.168.0.100 and all the other kit on my lan has that IP
address as the Gateway and DNS server address. All kit has IP address
from 192.168.0.1 to 192,168.0.255

Router Ethernet RCP/IP and DHCP Setup is:

LAN IP Network Configuration
For NAT Usage
1st IP address 192.168.0.1
1St Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
For IP Routing Usage
disable clicked
RIP Protocol Control - Disable

DHCP Server Configuration
Disable server selected
DNS Server IP Configuration
Primary IP address 192.168.0.100

I am controlling the router through http://192.168.0.1

pinging 192.168.0.1 gives response
pinging 192.168.0.100 and www.google.com give no response

....at the mo, I'm using the PC and not the router :-(

Thanks


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Old 06-03-2007, 07:29 PM
John Perry
 
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Default Re: How to use Vigor 2600vg with fixed IP address?

"Dj Toonz" <dj-toonz@thisgoesnowhere.com> wrote:

>
>"Wireless Reader" <justrolls@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:42956FE4.8090505@tiscali.co.uk...
>> John Perry wrote:
>> > At the moment I am using a spare PC and software as an Internet router
>> > but it is getting old and a bit unreliable, and I am trying to replace
>> > it with a Vigor2600VG.
>> >
>> > My network all has fixed IP address in the 192.168.0.xxx range. While I
>> > have managed to configure the Vigor to use a fixed IP address, I cannot
>> > control it via the web interface unless the DHCP server is running (and
>> > I don't want or need that), and I can't access the Internet through it
>> > either on any machine unless the PC is using the DHCP server of the
>> > Vigor to pick up an IP address.
>> >
>> > Has anyone seen a write up or know how to configure this beast in a
>> > static IP environment?

>>
>> By default the Vigor has an IP address of 192.168.1.1 and the built in
>> DHCP server offers addresses from 192.168.1.10.
>>
>> Have you changed the Vigor IP address to match your LAN (192.168.0.x)?

>
>i've got a differnt router to you but the same things might be the same as
>how i set my wireless router up in a static ip environment up is doing it
>this way
>
>i went into the routers config settings and disabled the DHCP server then
>set up the lan card's to get a static ip address 192.168.x.2 upto
>192.168.x.6 as i've got 3 pc's and a Ps2 using the router , added
>255.255.255.0 to the subnet and addedd the router's ip address to the
>default gateway for example 192.168.x.1 or whatever it says is the ip
>address , then added the routers ip address to the dafault DNS address so
>for example 192.168.x.1 (dont use the WAN ip address for the routers ip
>address the WAN is the ip you get from your ISP) hope that helps, that's how
>i set mine up
>

Hmmm.... I'm beginning to think the router MUST be set as 192.168.0.1
and that must be the gateway. ie router IP address must be the lowest.

I hope that's not the case as I would have a load of PCs and printers
to reconfigure :-(.

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Old 06-03-2007, 07:29 PM
John Perry
 
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usenet@isbd.co.uk wrote:

>John Perry <JohnPerry@redoak.co.uknospam> wrote:
>> At the moment I am using a spare PC and software as an Internet router
>> but it is getting old and a bit unreliable, and I am trying to replace
>> it with a Vigor2600VG.
>>
>> My network all has fixed IP address in the 192.168.0.xxx range. While I
>> have managed to configure the Vigor to use a fixed IP address, I cannot
>> control it via the web interface unless the DHCP server is running (and
>> I don't want or need that), and I can't access the Internet through it
>> either on any machine unless the PC is using the DHCP server of the
>> Vigor to pick up an IP address.
>>
>> Has anyone seen a write up or know how to configure this beast in a
>> static IP environment?
>>

>Obvious question, is the router on the same subnet? Your PCs are on
>the 192.168.0.xxx subnet, maybe the router is in 192.168.1.xxx, it's
>quite a common default. If my surmise is right it would explain your
>symptoms.


Thanks for tip, but I'm on the same subnet 192.168.0 for router and all
PCs and printers.

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Old 06-03-2007, 07:30 PM
JA
 
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Default Re: How to use Vigor 2600vg with fixed IP address?

John Perry wrote:

>
> I think you are on the right lines but my problem is how to set the
> router IP address and dns server. The PC I used as the router had IP
> address 192.168.0.100 and all the other kit on my lan has that IP
> address as the Gateway and DNS server address. All kit has IP address
> from 192.168.0.1 to 192,168.0.255
>
> Router Ethernet RCP/IP and DHCP Setup is:
>
> LAN IP Network Configuration
> For NAT Usage
> 1st IP address 192.168.0.1
> 1St Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
> For IP Routing Usage
> disable clicked
> RIP Protocol Control - Disable
>
> DHCP Server Configuration
> Disable server selected
> DNS Server IP Configuration
> Primary IP address 192.168.0.100
>
> I am controlling the router through http://192.168.0.1
>
> pinging 192.168.0.1 gives response
> pinging 192.168.0.100 and www.google.com give no response
>
> ...at the mo, I'm using the PC and not the router :-(
>

Given that your PCs are on 192.168.0.xxx and are already set up to use
192.169.0.100 as gateway and DNS, the easiest thing to do is to set the
router IP to 192.168.0.100 ("1st IP Address" in "LAN IP Network
Configuration"). You'll have to change the IP of the PC previously used
as router to something else. You'll also have to change the "Start IP
address" in "LAN IP Network Configuration" to something different, or it
will clash with the router IP. You can disable the DHCP Server on the
router if you don't need it.
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:30 PM
John Perry
 
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Ian Jones <wvn@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>>
>> Hmmm.... I'm beginning to think the router MUST be set as 192.168.0.1
>> and that must be the gateway. ie router IP address must be the lowest.
>>
>> I hope that's not the case as I would have a load of PCs and printers
>> to reconfigure :-(.
>>

>
>No, the router can be any address within the correct subnet for your
>network. I've got mine set to 192.168.99.254 for example.
>
>Ian


OK, Ian, specifically for the Vigor 2600VG, how can I set the router to
192.168.0.100 and at the same time have this setting

LAN IP Network Configuration
For NAT Usage
1st IP Address : 192.168.0.1
1st Subnet Mask : 255.255.255.0
For IP Routing Usage : Enable Disable
2nd IP Address :
2nd Subnet Mask

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