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Old 06-14-2007, 02:55 PM
Tony
 
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"Mugwump" <mugwump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20d0f6ddf4fd4d709896af@news.easynews.com. ..
In article <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-RdYOOKpncs83@rikki.tavi.co.uk>, rde42
@spamcop.net says...
> On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 13:47:33 UTC, "steeler" <nospam@nomail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ISP with 1 month contract. Only drawback would be a £50 activation fee
> > each
> > time.

>
> AAISP will transfer the exusting contract to someone else for a pound.
>
>

However, what is to stop the tenant changing to a cheaper provider?
Unfortunately tenancy laws give the tenant the right to change
providers, regardless of anything in the lease.

Seems a bit odd - since the tenant would then be leaving the property in a
different condition from the one they found it in. I wonder whether it
really applies to short term tenancies. Could you point us in the direction
of definitive information?

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Old 06-14-2007, 02:55 PM
Tony
 
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"xCx" <xcx@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> Tony wrote:
>> A neighbour is in the UK for about 3 months every year, and for the rest
>> of the time they rent their house. Is there any sensible and legal way
>> for them to get BB without paying for the whole year? There doesn't
>> seem to be any way they could transfer the connection to a tenant

(snip)
> Get wirless yourself and whilst they're over let them use it and share the
> cost? If you trust your neighbour shouldn't be a problem.


Against my ISP t & c of course. But apart from that I trust them to be nice
people but unfortunately I don't trust them not to let their PC become
infected as they are not computer savvy. I don't want to be in the
situation of having to oversee their AV firewall and email settings and I
don't think they would like it either. In fact I would share my BB about as
willingly as my toothbrush.

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Old 06-14-2007, 02:55 PM
Owain
 
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Tony wrote:
> Against my ISP t & c of course. But apart from that I trust them to be nice
> people but unfortunately I don't trust them not to let their PC become
> infected as they are not computer savvy. I don't want to be in the
> situation of having to oversee their AV firewall and email settings and I
> don't think they would like it either. In fact I would share my BB about as
> willingly as my toothbrush.


Would you trust them with a Thin Client running *only* a web browser
(and would that be sufficient for their needs)?

Owain


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Old 06-14-2007, 02:55 PM
Mugwump
 
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In article <xNC9i.680$p8.468@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, news@t-
onywoolf.co.uk says...
> "Mugwump" <mugwump@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.20d0f6ddf4fd4d709896af@news.easynews.com. ..
> In article <176uZD2KcidF-pn2-RdYOOKpncs83@rikki.tavi.co.uk>, rde42
> @spamcop.net says...
> > On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 13:47:33 UTC, "steeler" <nospam@nomail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > ISP with 1 month contract. Only drawback would be a £50 activationfee
> > > each
> > > time.

> >
> > AAISP will transfer the exusting contract to someone else for a pound.
> >
> >

> However, what is to stop the tenant changing to a cheaper provider?
> Unfortunately tenancy laws give the tenant the right to change
> providers, regardless of anything in the lease.
>
> Seems a bit odd - since the tenant would then be leaving the property in a
> different condition from the one they found it in. I wonder whether it
> really applies to short term tenancies. Could you point us in the direction
> of definitive information?
>
>

My mistake. If it is not explicitly stated in the tenancy agreement that
the tenant can not change supplier, then he/she would be free to do so
provided that he informed the Landlord.

However I would think that unless the landlord kept the accounts in his
name then e.g. changing the phone to the tenant would cause an ADSL
cease.

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Old 06-14-2007, 02:55 PM
Mark McIntyre
 
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:53:22 GMT, in uk.telecom.broadband , Mugwump
<mugwump@gmail.com> wrote:

>However, what is to stop the tenant changing to a cheaper provider?
>Unfortunately tenancy laws give the tenant the right to change
>providers, regardless of anything in the lease.


Where did you get that idea from? As a tenant you can't change
supplier for any of your utilities without the landlord's agreement.
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:55 PM
Paul Cummins
 
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In article <aide6317t06j99t409hm0a3f344sg9glm2@4ax.com>, markmcintyre@spamcop.net
(Mark McIntyre) wrote:

> Where did you get that idea from? As a tenant you can't change
> supplier for any of your utilities without the landlord's
> agreement.


Utter rubbish.

On what basis are you making this ridiculous claim?


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Old 06-14-2007, 02:55 PM
Tony
 
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"Mugwump" <mugwump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20d12a9eb34094379896b0@news.easynews.com. ..

> However I would think that unless the landlord kept the accounts in
> his name then e.g. changing the phone to the tenant would cause an
> ADSL cease.


I think that is the killer - can't see a way round it.

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Old 06-14-2007, 02:55 PM
Tony
 
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"Owain" <owain47125@stirlingcity.coo.uk> wrote in message
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> Tony wrote:
> ... I would share my BB about as
>> willingly as my toothbrush.

>
> Would you trust them with a Thin Client running *only* a web browser (and
> would that be sufficient for their needs)?


They're just neighbours. I really don't want a solution that involves me in
their IT setup.

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Old 06-14-2007, 02:55 PM
Eeyore
 
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Tony wrote:

> "xCx" wrote
> > Tony wrote:
> >> A neighbour is in the UK for about 3 months every year, and for the rest
> >> of the time they rent their house. Is there any sensible and legal way
> >> for them to get BB without paying for the whole year? There doesn't
> >> seem to be any way they could transfer the connection to a tenant

> (snip)
> > Get wirless yourself and whilst they're over let them use it and share the
> > cost? If you trust your neighbour shouldn't be a problem.

>
> Against my ISP t & c of course. But apart from that I trust them to be nice
> people but unfortunately I don't trust them not to let their PC become
> infected as they are not computer savvy. I don't want to be in the
> situation of having to oversee their AV firewall and email settings and I
> don't think they would like it either. In fact I would share my BB about as
> willingly as my toothbrush.


If they're just providing an IP connection, you don't need to get involved in
their IT one jot.

What THEY do with their computer won't affect you one tiny little bit.

Don't even begin to think of using an ISP for their email address for example,
just use their outgoing smtp server.

Graham

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Old 06-14-2007, 02:55 PM
Owain
 
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Mark McIntyre wrote:
>>However, what is to stop the tenant changing to a cheaper provider?
>>Unfortunately tenancy laws give the tenant the right to change
>>providers, regardless of anything in the lease.

> Where did you get that idea from? As a tenant you can't change
> supplier for any of your utilities without the landlord's agreement.


Absolute rubbish, and in any case if there as such a provision in the
lease it would almost certainly be held to be unreasonable.

However, the minimum contract periods and changeover times are a
significant problem for many tenants who want broadband but can't get it
for these reasons.

Owain

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