I recently was 'given' one of these by Orange as a 'free'
upgrade. Seemed like a good idea at the time.

However, GPRS always failed on the phone.

Orange Customer Cervice told me that I in order to get GPRS
on a Blackberry I needed to pay an additional £5 (I think)
on my monthly contract, and that the shop should have told
me this when giving me the phone. (They did not.)

As I get GPRS on other phones (incl. a Nokia 9300i) purely
on an as used basis, I was not interested in paying Orange
an extra £5 on top of the £12 a month I pay them anyway.

Does anyone have any experience of unlocking a Blackberry
7130g and / or getting GPRS and e-mail to work without
paying the extra monthly charge, just paying for what I use
as I go?

Thanks for any advice.

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Russell Hafter News formulated the question :
> I recently was 'given' one of these by Orange as a 'free'
> upgrade. Seemed like a good idea at the time.
>
> However, GPRS always failed on the phone.
>
> Orange Customer Cervice told me that I in order to get GPRS
> on a Blackberry I needed to pay an additional £5 (I think)
> on my monthly contract, and that the shop should have told
> me this when giving me the phone. (They did not.)
>
> As I get GPRS on other phones (incl. a Nokia 9300i) purely
> on an as used basis, I was not interested in paying Orange
> an extra £5 on top of the £12 a month I pay them anyway.
>
> Does anyone have any experience of unlocking a Blackberry
> 7130g and / or getting GPRS and e-mail to work without
> paying the extra monthly charge, just paying for what I use
> as I go?
>
> Thanks for any advice.

You can't connect to BlackBerry's servers without a BlackBerry tariff.

In article <mn.1d307d83bff696a9.77298@blueyonder.invalid>,
Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:

> Russell Hafter News formulated the question :

[Snip]

> > Does anyone have any experience of unlocking a
> > Blackberry 7130g and / or getting GPRS and e-mail to
> > work without paying the extra monthly charge, just
> > paying for what I use as I go?

> > Thanks for any advice.

> You can't connect to BlackBerry's servers without a
> BlackBerry tariff.

OK. But I had no interest in connecting to BlackBerry's
servers, just the ones I normally connect to.

Or is the hardware designed only to work with BlackBerry's
servers?

Meaning that if I want to read e-mail on a Blackberry then
that e-mail needs to be diverted from its usual POP3 server
to a Balckberry server?

I assumed that like on a Nokia 9300i I would be able to set
up what ever servers I wanted.

Seems to me that without that basic ability I could not get
it to work the way I would want anyway.

Which means that it is only any use to me as a phone anyway
(sort of fancy Nokia 1100).

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Russell Hafter News presented the following explanation :
> In article <mn.1d307d83bff696a9.77298@blueyonder.invalid>,
> Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Russell Hafter News formulated the question :
>
> [Snip]
>
>>> Does anyone have any experience of unlocking a
>>> Blackberry 7130g and / or getting GPRS and e-mail to
>>> work without paying the extra monthly charge, just
>>> paying for what I use as I go?
>
>>> Thanks for any advice.
>
>> You can't connect to BlackBerry's servers without a
>> BlackBerry tariff.
>
> OK. But I had no interest in connecting to BlackBerry's
> servers, just the ones I normally connect to.
>
> Or is the hardware designed only to work with BlackBerry's
> servers?

Sort of. There is no email "client" other than the BlackBerry system.
You would configure their system to collect your pop email & send it to
the phone.

>
> Meaning that if I want to read e-mail on a Blackberry then
> that e-mail needs to be diverted from its usual POP3 server
> to a Balckberry server?

Well, not diverted but collected by them & sent to the phone.

>
> I assumed that like on a Nokia 9300i I would be able to set
> up what ever servers I wanted.

You can but not in the phone.

>
> Seems to me that without that basic ability I could not get
> it to work the way I would want anyway.

Your only option would be to use webmail...unless there's a third-party
mail client for the bb.

>
> Which means that it is only any use to me as a phone anyway
> (sort of fancy Nokia 1100).

I can think of better phones than a blackberry. (I have the 8800)

In article <mn.246f7d83a7509d4a.77298@blueyonder.invalid>,
Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:

> Russell Hafter News presented the following explanation :

> > In article
> > <mn.1d307d83bff696a9.77298@blueyonder.invalid>, Jono
> > <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:

> >> Russell Hafter News formulated the question :

> > [Snip]

> >>> Does anyone have any experience of unlocking a
> >>> Blackberry 7130g and / or getting GPRS and e-mail to
> >>> work without paying the extra monthly charge, just
> >>> paying for what I use as I go?

> >>> Thanks for any advice.

> >> You can't connect to BlackBerry's servers without a
> >> BlackBerry tariff.

> > OK. But I had no interest in connecting to BlackBerry's
> > servers, just the ones I normally connect to.

> > Or is the hardware designed only to work with
> > BlackBerry's servers?

> Sort of. There is no email "client" other than the
> BlackBerry system. You would configure their system to
> collect your pop email & send it to the phone.

> > Meaning that if I want to read e-mail on a Blackberry
> > then that e-mail needs to be diverted from its usual
> > POP3 server to a Balckberry server?

> Well, not diverted but collected by them & sent to the
> phone.

> > I assumed that like on a Nokia 9300i I would be able to
> > set up what ever servers I wanted.

> You can but not in the phone.

> > Seems to me that without that basic ability I could not
> > get it to work the way I would want anyway.

> Your only option would be to use webmail...unless there's
> a third-party mail client for the bb.

> > Which means that it is only any use to me as a phone
> > anyway (sort of fancy Nokia 1100).

> I can think of better phones than a blackberry. (I have
> the 8800)

OK.

Thanks for the advice.

Seems like it was not the cleverest choice, but it did not
actually cost me anything!

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In article <4f7af506aasee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid says...
> Seems like it was not the cleverest choice, but it did not
> actually cost me anything!

Apart from a contract extension.
--
Regards
Jon

In article <MPG.2237e433f883b0e3989706@nntp.aioe.org>, Jon
<spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:

> In article <4f7af506aasee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
> see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid says...

> > Seems like it was not the cleverest choice, but it did
> > not actually cost me anything!

> Apart from a contract extension.

True, but of no significance, since I have no intention of
ending the service anyway.

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In article <4f7b0141absee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid says...
> In article <MPG.2237e433f883b0e3989706@nntp.aioe.org>, Jon
> <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <4f7af506aasee.sig@walkingingermany.invalid>,
> > see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid says...
>
> > > Seems like it was not the cleverest choice, but it did
> > > not actually cost me anything!
>
> > Apart from a contract extension.
>
> True, but of no significance, since I have no intention of
> ending the service anyway.

Can you come to my shop for your next upgrade? I'll see what I've got in
the stockroom that I need to get rid of!
--
Regards
Jon

In article <MPG.22384fbf3dddef1d989709@nntp.aioe.org>,
Jon <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:

> Can you come to my shop for your next upgrade? I'll see
> what I've got in the stockroom that I need to get rid of!

As long as you are somewhere convenient, and you have
something that does GPRS e-mail with at least a half-decent
QWERTY keyboard as well as voice lying around in your
stockroom I would be happy to. Fax would be useful too.

I know that Orange will not be offering anything like that
on a contract that pays them £11 a month.

Otherwise I shall stick to seeing what I can screw out of a
local Orange shop, who at least always seem to have much
better stuff at their disposal than the Orange website.

Thanks for the info about Blackberries. I shall not be
bothering with another, even if it, too, is 'free'.

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